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Title: Cognos Analytics Installation
Post by: raj_aries81 on 08 Mar 2017 03:47:24 PM
Hello All.

We are planning to upgrade our existing Cognos 10.2.2 to CA. Instead of going big bang, we wanted to go in a phased approach,starting with our Dev environment first. Also, looking at the consumption and usage patterns, our Dev & Test environments are used only by the Developer community hence they are not over loaded.
My plan is to decommission couple of dispatchers from Cognos 10 Dev & Test environment and make them Cognos 11 dispatchers while Cognos 11 shares the Cognos 10 content store.

In my view, we can have a new environment that can be used by LCM  and eventually moving to Cognos 11.

Please let me know if this is a viable approach or do you see any potential risks that I may encounter.

Appreciate any inputs !!

Thanks & Regards
Raj


Title: Re: Cognos Analytics Installation
Post by: AnalyticsWithJay on 08 Mar 2017 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: raj_aries81 on 08 Mar 2017 03:47:24 PM
Instead of going big bang, we wanted to go in a phased approach,starting with our Dev environment first.

Good idea.

Quote from: raj_aries81 on 08 Mar 2017 03:47:24 PM
while Cognos 11 shares the Cognos 10 content store.

Cognos 11 must have its own content store. They cannot share a content store.

As for your environment, as long as everything is running on different ports and the infrastructure can handle the load, I don't see any issues.
Title: Re: Cognos Analytics Installation
Post by: raj_aries81 on 08 Mar 2017 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: CognoidJay on 08 Mar 2017 04:04:56 PM
Good idea.

Cognos 11 must have its own content store. They cannot share a content store.

As for your environment, as long as everything is running on different ports and the infrastructure can handle the load, I don't see any issues.


Thanks much Jay..appreciated !!

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Cognos 11 must have its own content store. They cannot share a content store.

As for your environment, as long as everything is running on different ports and the infrastructure can handle the load, I don't see any issues.


Is there a reason why its not compatible. Logically, I presume it would be a new set of system tables for CA within the same database.Even if I have to go with a new Content Store, can I backup and restore of old Cognos 10 CS to get my user roles & groups or should I have to go with Deployment (export & import wizard) in this case.

Thanks & Regards
Raj
Title: Re: Cognos Analytics Installation
Post by: AnalyticsWithJay on 08 Mar 2017 04:25:36 PM
Quote from: raj_aries81 on 08 Mar 2017 04:15:48 PM

Thanks much Jay..appreciated !!


Is there a reason why its not compatible. Logically, I presume it would be a new set of system tables for CA within the same database.Even if I have to go with a new Content Store, can I backup and restore of old Cognos 10 CS to get my user roles & groups or should I have to go with Deployment (export & import wizard) in this case.

Thanks & Regards
Raj

Sorry Raj, I misunderstood  :). When you said "share the same content store", I thought you meant share the same set of DB tables. Of course you could have more than one content store database in the same environment.

Title: Re: Cognos Analytics Installation
Post by: raj_aries81 on 08 Mar 2017 07:24:47 PM
Quote from: CognoidJay on 08 Mar 2017 04:25:36 PM
Sorry Raj, I misunderstood  :). When you said "share the same content store", I thought you meant share the same set of DB tables. Of course you could have more than one content store database in the same environment.

Sorry for the confusion Jay, I should have perhaps phrased it correctly :). Yeah, I meant new set of CA tables within the same database.

Thanks again for your inputs

Regards
Raj
Title: Re: Cognos Analytics Installation
Post by: adam.johnson on 09 Mar 2017 03:39:28 AM
Raj,

This approach would work as long as you follow the points discussed by CognoidJay (New CM, Different Ports, etc.).

One thing i would be wary of is the dependency on LCM! We have recently gone from Cognos 10.2 to 11R5 and were unable to validate any report runs, outputs, etc.

I bring this up as part of your project plan you may need to allow more time for regression testing.

Adam
Title: Re: Cognos Analytics Installation
Post by: raj_aries81 on 09 Mar 2017 04:00:48 PM
Quote from: adam.johnson on 09 Mar 2017 03:39:28 AM
Raj,

This approach would work as long as you follow the points discussed by CognoidJay (New CM, Different Ports, etc.).

One thing i would be wary of is the dependency on LCM! We have recently gone from Cognos 10.2 to 11R5 and were unable to validate any report runs, outputs, etc.

I bring this up as part of your project plan you may need to allow more time for regression testing.

Adam

Thanks Adam for your inputs, will make a note of it. Btw, was that a multi version co-existence with different versions of cognos and is it still supported with Cognos 10.2.2 and CA?

Thanks & Regards
Raj
Title: Re: Cognos Analytics Installation
Post by: raj_aries81 on 19 Mar 2017 09:12:38 PM
In a distributed environment with 3 Servers to evaluate CA 11 what would be the optimal way for configuring different components on these three server

Server 1 (Webserver + Dispatcher)
Server 2 (Dispatcher + Content Manager)
Server 3 (Dispatcher + Backup Content Manager)

Vs

Server 1 (Webserver + Content Manager)
Server 2 (Dispatcher)
Server 3 (Dispatcher+Backup Content Manager)

My preference would be having a dedicated Server for Content Manager.However, with the limited resources that I have in hand I'm confined to use three server. I'm look a combination that would minimize the risk during a failure.

Appreciate your thoughts and inputs.

Regards
Raj
Title: Re: Cognos Analytics Installation
Post by: raj_aries81 on 21 Mar 2017 09:05:41 PM
Quote from: raj_aries81 on 19 Mar 2017 09:12:38 PM
In a distributed environment with 3 Servers to evaluate CA 11 what would be the optimal way for configuring different components on these three server

Server 1 (Webserver + Dispatcher)
Server 2 (Dispatcher + Content Manager)
Server 3 (Dispatcher + Backup Content Manager)

Vs

Server 1 (Webserver + Content Manager)
Server 2 (Dispatcher)
Server 3 (Dispatcher+Backup Content Manager)

My preference would be having a dedicated Server for Content Manager.However, with the limited resources that I have in hand I'm confined to use three server. I'm look a combination that would minimize the risk during a failure.

Appreciate your thoughts and inputs.

Regards
Raj

Hello All,

Looking at a better risk mitigation strategy in the event of a system failure, my view is to have something like -

Server 1 (Webserver+Dispatcher)
Server 2 (Content Manager)
Server 3 (Dispatcher+Backup Content Manager)

This way I can have a dedicated Content Manager and I dont have to change anything, if I have to scale-up my environment I can just install the Application Tier (dispatchers) in future.

Appreciate expert thoughts and inputs.

Thanks & Regards
Raj.