Cognos Planning being Replaced by TM1 ? ? ?

[shethsameer]

Hi folks,

I have heard rumors that IBM has stopped further development of Cognos Planning and that it will be replaced by TM1, is it true? any idea by when it will be made official.

Cheers
Sameer Sheth

[MFGF]

Hi folks,

I have heard rumors that IBM has stopped further development of Cognos Planning and that it will be replaced by TM1, is it true?

No.

MF.

[biworld]

Its an old thread but just to update it. Seems IBM does not want to promote Planning any more and Instead are promoting TM1. so direction is clearly in favor of TM1.

[cogplan]

CEP is outdone by TM1, Thanks to IBM

[Grim]

Wow, talk about resurrecting an old thread.

I'm with MF on this one. TM1 is NOT replacing Planning. Your talking 2 completely different products for different needs, not to mention that TM1 needs some completely different hardware requirements. TM1 is "in memory OLAP". Planning is not as it still uses the "Planning Store" in an RDBMS.

[dusherwo]

biworld and cogplan are correct. IBM are 'sunsetting' Planning. It's supported, they are releasing new versions, but the development effort is going into TM1. We're IBM partners (focusing on TM1, I'll admit) and the bulk of the Planning partners have moved to TM1, not without pain because the products are quite different in how they do things (not in what they do).

The new releases of TM1 (10.1+) are focused quite explicitly on the features of Planning which people liked but were not in TM1 9 - dimension-based calculations, commentary, email, hot-promotion across servers, etc. This work is done by the (former) Cognos Planning team in York, UK. I'm not myself quite convinced yet how this will work in practice but that's the direction.

[stephen w]

TM1 is NOT replacing Planning.

Correct that TM1 is not replacing CP, it already HAS replaced CP as the IBM Cognos budgeting, planning and modelling tool.  Together with Cognos Express which contains a cheaper but full function version of TM1. 

There are still Cognos partners who are selling Planning to new customers but that is generally because they struggle with or don't understand TM1.   As other have said, IBM will continue support and some limited development for Planning but the majority of the development effort is going into TM1.  I go to quite a lot of Cognos partner events, and hardly anyone at IBM mentions Planning, and then only as a legacy product. 

Interesting statistic from the IBM Cognos Vision conference this year(aimed mainly at Cognos finance department users).  In the Planning, Analysis and Forecasting track there were 20 sessions broken down as

TM1        14 (or maybe 15)
Planning   2 (or maybe 3)
Varicent:   1
Clarity 7:  1
General\Unsure: 2

This gives a true idea of IBM's priorities

[SomeClown]

All true, but what IBM wants to sell and what customers want to buy can be two different things.  In addition to Grim's points, there are other differences that don't make TM1 a shoe-in for an overlay on top of existing Planning implementations.  10.1 is an effort towards minimizing those differences.

[stephen w]

Unfortunately, many new customers of Cognos Planning who have bought it in the last 2-3 years have done so because they have been misinformed rather than because they made a conscious, informed decision to do so.   We regularly come across companies like these who are now being told that they ought to migrate their licenses to TM1 which involves extra cost, as well as the reimplementation of their planning system.  Quite understandably they are not happy!